🎧 Adaptability, Humanity, and the Discipline of Change — A Conversation with Shakir Husain

In this episode, Conroy Browne sits down with Shakir Husain, Founder & CEO of Creative Chaos, to explore how adaptability, humility, and human connection drive sustainable innovation. From launching one of Pakistan’s first digital innovation houses to leading teams across continents, Shakir shares the lessons learned from building — and rebuilding — through uncertainty. He reflects on why “it all comes down to people,” how to hire for curiosity instead of credentials, and why teachability and empathy can’t be taught — only embodied. Together, Conroy and Shakir unpack the evolution of leadership in a volatile world — from overcoming early skepticism (“digital’s a fad; it won’t work in Pakistan”) to fostering cultures that thrive through adversity, not despite it. Shakir offers a candid look at how reflection, self-critique, and slowing down have become his antidotes to burnout — and why the next era of leadership requires both tougher skin and gentler hearts. Listeners will learn: How optimism and “making new mistakes” fuel creative resilience. Why cultural fit and teachability outperform technical skill. The human cost of hustle culture — and how to reclaim balance. How reflection, structure, and humility shape long-term success. Why adversity often sparks the most meaningful innovation. This episode is a masterclass in staying grounded while evolving through constant change — a must-listen for founders, executives, and anyone leading teams across borders and generations. 💡 Guest Links: 🔗 Creative Chaos 🔗 Connect with Shakir Husain on LinkedIn 🎧 Listen to more episodes of the Quarterly Report Interview Series at www.conroybrowne.com